User talk:Crazyeddie/Archive 2004-12-16

Hello. Curious to know why you haven't tried Gentoo. Coming from slack, and showing interest in LFS, you may find Gentoo a decent middle ground between the two. I think it's a great distro...if you don't mind the long install. And their forums are one of the better forums out there. Anyway...back to the wiki. Dkaplowitz

I've heard of it, but haven't [had a chance|taken the time] to look at it. Slack just happend to be the first distro I was introduced to, and I found the lack of a package manager to be limiting. I'm working on LFS more for education purposes than anything else. As for other distros, I liked Mandrake 9.1 a lot, but I've heard bad things from a friend of mine about 9.2. After a bad week of cleaning malware off windows boxes, I decided to take an amble down the path of righteousness, and installed Debian. Like I said in the main page, Debian did somethings in the startup files that I didn't particullarly like. The default settings were perfectly alright, but I wanted it to do it my way. After some fumbling around I realized that I needed to know more about the inner workings of Linux, hence the LFS.

Crazyeddie 04:50, Mar 27, 2004 (EST)

Thanks for the update, I'll try and contact some of the MediaWiki developers and see if they can post to your mailing list, or contact Jeremy directly. Dori 21:07, Jul 5, 2004 (EDT)

Re Chown, the point about dotfiles is important, but I think we should keep it just at Dotfile ;) Dysprosia 05:13, Aug 3, 2004 (EDT)

Fair enough. Somebody asked about it in the chown talk page so that's why it's there. Crazyeddie 15:14, Aug 3, 2004 (EDT)

Dan, might be an idea to remove this Redirect page you've just created - always handy to have them spelt correctly first :)

http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/index.php?title=Desktop_enviornment&redirect=no

Also - you have to manually note down what you've deleted in the deletion log --Skyline 16:52, Aug 3, 2004 (EDT)

Crazyeddie 17:30, Aug 3, 2004 (EDT)
 * 1) yeah, it does help when you spell it right...
 * 2) okay, I'll go in and do that.

Howdy! I appreciate your contributions to the wiki!

Is there a different wiki we can put the hacker's jargon dictionary onto?

I feel like it's enough OffTopic that it shouldn't be here. I believe that there should be a wiki for it, or to complement the authoritative version, but I don't think it should be here.

-- LionKimbro

AFAIK, no. I originally planned to trim it down to just what I thought was on topic, but then I noticed a handful of LQwiki articles written on topics I had discarded. I'll lay off it for a while. A little bit of OTness doesn't hurt, just so long as it doesn't overwhelm the rest of the wiki. But it is getting close to that point. (One of the reasons I'm doing the Linux Documentation Project incorporation is to balance out all the OTness I'm inflicting on this wiki.) Dang thing is addictive though. If you find a particular article really offtopic, I'd guess you could nominate it for deletion... just as soon as we figure out a way to do that :-/Crazyeddie 18:34, Aug 4, 2004 (EDT)

Heh. Yes, it is addicting.

You might want to read some of the ideas we've had over on CommunityWiki about how to work the public web.

I think that with time, there will be a "proper place" for just about everything. (See TooFewWiki and WikiProliferation.)

Perhaps one of the most important developments for the wiki world would be easy namespaces for pages.

LionKimbro

Well, I think hacker folklore has a place on this wiki, since programming, Linux, and hacking is interleaved. But this wiki shouldn't be only about hacker folklore. I do plan on eventually incorporating the entire File here, but we need to focus on our main mission first.

Wikis are great, because it allows users to contribute back to the community without much more knowledge than how to work a web browser in the first place. The main thing holding them back, as far as I can tell, is the lack of PHP coders to maintain the back end. (Plus people willing to pay for the hardware and bandwidth...)

I'm not so sure encouraging more NameSpaces is a good idea. I think they are good for keeping "administrative" areas of wikis seperate from the actual content, but any direct organization of wikis should be kept to a bare minimum. My experience with the Hardware Compatability List suggests that organizational schemes are the product of one or a few minds. Wikis naturally grow more organically, and one of the great things about wikis is the ability to random walk using the links (or, sometimes, the random page feature). Categories and other hierarchial organizational schemes are just too much work.

But maybe I misunderstand what you're trying to say. (Or I'm just plain wrong :-)). Crazyeddie 16:27, Aug 6, 2004 (EDT)

Hi Eddie. Yeah, I use this site as an information dump of sorts. Every time I do something that I don't think I'll remember next time I need it, I'll post it here. I read that you are also a debian user :-) I think Debian was the second distro I ever installed, it was potato. I've used many distros since but I always crawl back to debian. I'm currently working on a debian project. You might want to chek it out here. Well, anyways, thanks for the welcome! - Koody 08:45, Aug 8, 2004 (EDT)

I've just restructured Forums a little. It's just to keep Talk pages for discussion, and I've moved the preexisting archive to a dedicated archive subpage. Thanks Dysprosia 02:46, Sep 1, 2004 (EDT)

Groovy Crazyeddie 17:32, Sep 1, 2004 (EDT)

Dan, the Bulldog article has been edited in accordance with our Manual of style (as usuall..) - helps with consistency - btw, good work on TLDP email - thanks --Skyline 08:21, Sep 4, 2004 (EDT)

Thought I got it right that time... Crazyeddie 12:21, Sep 4, 2004 (EDT)

On copyright and intellectual property
Hi Dan, thanks for your advice on User talk:Sdrubble on Oct. 1. Got it only right now, and will do my best to keep it in mind from now on.

To be honest I feel sad about this kind of stuff. I don't personally believe on intellectual property [that's a spiritual discussion which does not belong here]; moreover, I was born and raised in a country where copyright laws do exist but are not taken seriously by common folks. A large corporation usually enforces this kind of stuff internally, but average Joes do not think twice before going to the copy shop next door (one or two on every block, believe me) and cloning a whole book or paying US$3 for a CD with Win XP for their home computer.

So in this particular Wiki case (where I can see that this kind of concern is taken VERY seriously) the effect it will have on me is that I won't feel as compelled as I was before to research bits of info and make it available here. I will certainly NOT spend my time emailing webmasters and requesting permissions to spread info that they themselves obviously want to spread.

However I also accept that the law is the law and should [... not 'MUST' ...] be followed, no matter what silly consequences might arise from that. So I'll keep my rebel lines of thought to myself and not materialize those onto unlawful actions (not on LQ, at least).

As a side note I personally believe that an approaching social evolution [you might read 'spiritual' instead of social, and 'revolution' instead of evolution] will soon turn all copyright, patent, intellectual property and similar concepts into curiosities from the past. Time should tell.

Keep your advice coming. It will be welcomed by the brain even when rejected by the heart.

Cheers

Sdrubble

Please write in the about section of wiki.lq.org what wikisoftware is used. We use zope and I personaly do not like the usage of that software. If this software supports ldap we could change to it... --Phobie 16:21, Oct 26, 2004 (EDT)

Jeremy is the one you'll have to talk to about that. Me and code don't get along so good. Crazyeddie 16:42, Oct 26, 2004 (EDT)

- Hi Dan, just now I saw your msg on User talk:Sdrubble on Oct 23. I'm not that a frequent visitor around here. . . :)

I'm from Brazil, and relax - no offense taken at all. It's a known fact that the Emperor of the US is the self-appointed Protector of the rest of world, although you don't usually find that statement in such a clear written form.

I'd not add anything to your list - as a matter of fact I'd just remove all items. ;) As the future Emperor of Planet Earth I will decree that all intellectual products are received from a Source higher than men's minds, and therefore the concept of IP is an aberration and an attempt at illegal appropriation.

Of course, no copyright laws shall remain after that, as well as no profitable software companies and also. . . uh oh, better stop right here.

Thnx for your answer, but you shouldn't bother replying to this anarchist any further. . . :))

Cheers

Sdrubble Nov. 22, 2004 -

Just noticed you signing personal comments. Does this mean LQ is not averse to opinion as say, Wikipedia would be? Is there some official guidelines/policy/arrangements about this? I am weakly in disagreement with personal opinion, but I'm not completely averse to it... Dysprosia 20:41, Nov 27, 2004 (EST)

I have no idea what the offical LQwiki policy is. I'll bring it up with the Council when I get back to my office computer (where my email is). I'm personally in favor of personal opinion, in moderation, as long as it's noted as such, and it's clear whose opinion it is. The LQwiki is focused on technical issues, and the personal opinion of experienced users is a valuable source of information. In contrast, the Wikipedia is supposedly an encyclopedia, and should only report the consensus opinion of experts, not the opinion of any one contributor. Crazyeddie 03:48, Nov 28, 2004 (EST)

Re: Template:Forums - I'll make some suggestions on the article's talk page. Skyline 18:45, Dec 9, 2004 (EST)