'''wondershaper''' is a [[bandwidth management]] application.

==External links==

[http://lartc.org/wondershaper/ Official wondershaper homepage]

Sdrubble: /* On copyright and intellectual property */

User talk:Crazyeddie

2004-10-17T04:58:14Z

Sdrubble: /* On copyright and intellectual property */

Hello. Curious to know why you haven't tried Gentoo. Coming from slack, and showing interest in LFS, you may find Gentoo a decent middle ground between the two. I think it's a great distro...if you don't mind the long install. And their forums are one of the better forums out there. Anyway...back to the wiki.
[[User:Dkaplowitz|Dkaplowitz]]

----
I've heard of it, but haven't [had a chance|taken the time] to look at it. Slack just happend to be the first distro I was introduced to, and I found the lack of a package manager to be limiting. I'm working on LFS more for education purposes than anything else. As for other distros, I liked Mandrake 9.1 a lot, but I've heard bad things from a friend of mine about 9.2. After a bad week of cleaning malware off windows boxes, I decided to take an amble down the path of righteousness, and installed Debian. Like I said in the main page, Debian did somethings in the startup files that I didn't particullarly like. The default settings were perfectly alright, but I wanted it to do it my way. After some fumbling around I realized that I needed to know more about the inner workings of Linux, hence the LFS.

[[User:Crazyeddie|Crazyeddie]] 04:50, Mar 27, 2004 (EST)

----

Thanks for the update, I'll try and contact some of the MediaWiki developers and see if they can post to your mailing list, or contact Jeremy directly. [[User:Dori|Dori]] 21:07, Jul 5, 2004 (EDT)

----
Re [[Chown]], the point about dot files is important, but I think we should keep it just at [[Dot file]] ;) [[User:Dysprosia|Dysprosia]] 05:13, Aug 3, 2004 (EDT)

Fair enough. Somebody asked about it in the chown talk page so that's why it's there. [[User:Crazyeddie|Crazyeddie]] 15:14, Aug 3, 2004 (EDT)
----
Dan, might be an idea to remove this Redirect page you've just created - always handy to have them spelt correctly first :)

http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/index.php?title=Desktop_enviornment&redirect=no

Also - you have to manually note down what you've deleted in the deletion log --[[User:Skyline|Skyline]] 16:52, Aug 3, 2004 (EDT)

#yeah, it does help when you spell it right...
#okay, I'll go in and do that.
[[User:Crazyeddie|Crazyeddie]] 17:30, Aug 3, 2004 (EDT)

----

Howdy! I appreciate your contributions to the wiki!

Is there a different wiki we can put the hacker's jargon dictionary onto?

I feel like it's enough OffTopic that it shouldn't be here. I believe that there should be a wiki for it, or to complement the authoritative version, but I don't think it should be here.

-- LionKimbro

AFAIK, no. I originally planned to trim it down to just what I thought was on topic, but then I noticed a handful of LQwiki articles written on topics I had discarded. I'll lay off it for a while. A little bit of OTness doesn't hurt, just so long as it doesn't overwhelm the rest of the wiki. But it ''is'' getting close to that point. (One of the reasons I'm doing the [[Linux Documentation Project]] incorporation is to balance out all the OTness I'm inflicting on this wiki.) Dang thing is addictive though. If you find a particular article ''really'' offtopic, I'd guess you could nominate it for deletion... just as soon as we figure out a way to do that :-/[[User:Crazyeddie|Crazyeddie]] 18:34, Aug 4, 2004 (EDT)

Heh. Yes, it ''is'' addicting.

You might want to read some of the ideas we've had over on [http://communitywiki.org/ CommunityWiki] about how to work [http://communitywiki.org/ThePublicWeb the public web.]

I think that with time, there will be a "proper place" for just about everything. (See [http://communitywiki.org/TooFewWiki TooFewWiki] and [http://communitywiki.org/WikiProliferation WikiProliferation.])

Perhaps one of the most important developments for the wiki world would be [http://wikifeatures.wiki.taoriver.net/moin.cgi/NameSpacesForPages easy namespaces for pages.]

[[User:LionKimbro|LionKimbro]]

Well, I think hacker folklore has a place on this wiki, since programming, Linux, and hacking is interleaved. But this wiki shouldn't be ''only'' about hacker folklore. I do plan on eventually incorporating the entire File here, but we need to focus on our main mission first.

Wikis are great, because it allows users to contribute back to the community without much more knowledge than how to work a web browser in the first place. The main thing holding them back, as far as I can tell, is the lack of PHP coders to maintain the back end. (Plus people willing to pay for the hardware and bandwidth...)

I'm not so sure encouraging more NameSpaces is a good idea. I think they are good for keeping "administrative" areas of wikis seperate from the actual content, but any direct organization of wikis should be kept to a bare minimum. My experience with the [[Hardware Compatability List]] suggests that organizational schemes are the product of one or a few minds. Wikis naturally grow more organically, and one of the great things about wikis is the ability to random walk using the links (or, sometimes, the random page feature). Categories and other hierarchial organizational schemes are just too much work.

But maybe I misunderstand what you're trying to say. (Or I'm just plain wrong :-)). [[User:Crazyeddie|Crazyeddie]] 16:27, Aug 6, 2004 (EDT)

----
Hi Eddie. Yeah, I use this site as an information dump of sorts. Every time I do something that I don't think I'll remember next time I need it, I'll post it here. I read that you are also a debian user :-) I think Debian was the second distro I ever installed, it was potato. I've used many distros since but I always crawl back to debian. I'm currently working on a debian project. You might want to chek it out [[Installing woody|here]]. Well, anyways, thanks for the welcome! - [[User:Koody|Koody]] 08:45, Aug 8, 2004 (EDT)

----
I've just restructured [[LQWiki:Forums]] a little. It's just to keep Talk pages for discussion, and I've moved the preexisting archive to a dedicated archive subpage. Thanks [[User:Dysprosia|Dysprosia]] 02:46, Sep 1, 2004 (EDT)

Groovy [[User:Crazyeddie|Crazyeddie]] 17:32, Sep 1, 2004 (EDT)
----
Dan, the [http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/BullDog Bulldog] article has been edited in accordance with our ''Manual of style'' (as usuall..) - helps with consistency - btw, good work on TLDP email - thanks --[[User:Skyline|Skyline]] 08:21, Sep 4, 2004 (EDT)

Thought I got it right that time... [[User:Crazyeddie|Crazyeddie]] 12:21, Sep 4, 2004 (EDT)

== On copyright and intellectual property ==

Hi Dan, thanks for your advice on [[User talk:Sdrubble]] on Oct. 1. Got it only right now, and will do my best to keep it in mind from now on.

To be honest I feel sad about this kind of stuff. I don't personally believe on intellectual property [that's a spiritual discussion which does not belong here]; moreover, I was born and raised in a country where copyright laws do exist but are not taken seriously by common folks. A large corporation usually enforces this kind of stuff internally, but average Joes do not think twice before going to the copy shop next door (one or two on every block, believe me) and cloning a whole book or paying US$3 for a CD with Win XP for their home computer.

So in this particular Wiki case (where I can see that this kind of concern is taken VERY seriously) the effect it will have on me is that I won't feel as compelled as I was before to research bits of info and make it available here. I will certainly NOT spend my time emailing webmasters and requesting permissions to spread info that they themselves obviously want to spread.

However I also accept that the law is the law and should [... not 'MUST' ...] be followed, no matter what silly consequences might arise from that. So I'll keep my rebel lines of thought to myself and not materialize those onto unlawful actions (not on LQ, at least).

As a side note I personally believe that an approaching social evolution [you might read 'spiritual' instead of social, and 'revolution' instead of evolution] will soon turn all copyright, patent, intellectual property and similar concepts into curiosities from the past. Time should tell.

Keep your advice coming. It will be welcomed by the brain even when rejected by the heart.

Cheers

Sdrubble

User talk:Crazyeddie

2004-10-17T04:56:57Z

Sdrubble: On licenses and intellectual property

Hello. Curious to know why you haven't tried Gentoo. Coming from slack, and showing interest in LFS, you may find Gentoo a decent middle ground between the two. I think it's a great distro...if you don't mind the long install. And their forums are one of the better forums out there. Anyway...back to the wiki.
[[User:Dkaplowitz|Dkaplowitz]]

----
I've heard of it, but haven't [had a chance|taken the time] to look at it. Slack just happend to be the first distro I was introduced to, and I found the lack of a package manager to be limiting. I'm working on LFS more for education purposes than anything else. As for other distros, I liked Mandrake 9.1 a lot, but I've heard bad things from a friend of mine about 9.2. After a bad week of cleaning malware off windows boxes, I decided to take an amble down the path of righteousness, and installed Debian. Like I said in the main page, Debian did somethings in the startup files that I didn't particullarly like. The default settings were perfectly alright, but I wanted it to do it my way. After some fumbling around I realized that I needed to know more about the inner workings of Linux, hence the LFS.

[[User:Crazyeddie|Crazyeddie]] 04:50, Mar 27, 2004 (EST)

----

Thanks for the update, I'll try and contact some of the MediaWiki developers and see if they can post to your mailing list, or contact Jeremy directly. [[User:Dori|Dori]] 21:07, Jul 5, 2004 (EDT)

----
Re [[Chown]], the point about dot files is important, but I think we should keep it just at [[Dot file]] ;) [[User:Dysprosia|Dysprosia]] 05:13, Aug 3, 2004 (EDT)

Fair enough. Somebody asked about it in the chown talk page so that's why it's there. [[User:Crazyeddie|Crazyeddie]] 15:14, Aug 3, 2004 (EDT)
----
Dan, might be an idea to remove this Redirect page you've just created - always handy to have them spelt correctly first :)

http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/index.php?title=Desktop_enviornment&redirect=no

Also - you have to manually note down what you've deleted in the deletion log --[[User:Skyline|Skyline]] 16:52, Aug 3, 2004 (EDT)

#yeah, it does help when you spell it right...
#okay, I'll go in and do that.
[[User:Crazyeddie|Crazyeddie]] 17:30, Aug 3, 2004 (EDT)

----

Howdy! I appreciate your contributions to the wiki!

Is there a different wiki we can put the hacker's jargon dictionary onto?

I feel like it's enough OffTopic that it shouldn't be here. I believe that there should be a wiki for it, or to complement the authoritative version, but I don't think it should be here.

-- LionKimbro

AFAIK, no. I originally planned to trim it down to just what I thought was on topic, but then I noticed a handful of LQwiki articles written on topics I had discarded. I'll lay off it for a while. A little bit of OTness doesn't hurt, just so long as it doesn't overwhelm the rest of the wiki. But it ''is'' getting close to that point. (One of the reasons I'm doing the [[Linux Documentation Project]] incorporation is to balance out all the OTness I'm inflicting on this wiki.) Dang thing is addictive though. If you find a particular article ''really'' offtopic, I'd guess you could nominate it for deletion... just as soon as we figure out a way to do that :-/[[User:Crazyeddie|Crazyeddie]] 18:34, Aug 4, 2004 (EDT)

Heh. Yes, it ''is'' addicting.

You might want to read some of the ideas we've had over on [http://communitywiki.org/ CommunityWiki] about how to work [http://communitywiki.org/ThePublicWeb the public web.]

I think that with time, there will be a "proper place" for just about everything. (See [http://communitywiki.org/TooFewWiki TooFewWiki] and [http://communitywiki.org/WikiProliferation WikiProliferation.])

Perhaps one of the most important developments for the wiki world would be [http://wikifeatures.wiki.taoriver.net/moin.cgi/NameSpacesForPages easy namespaces for pages.]

[[User:LionKimbro|LionKimbro]]

Well, I think hacker folklore has a place on this wiki, since programming, Linux, and hacking is interleaved. But this wiki shouldn't be ''only'' about hacker folklore. I do plan on eventually incorporating the entire File here, but we need to focus on our main mission first.

Wikis are great, because it allows users to contribute back to the community without much more knowledge than how to work a web browser in the first place. The main thing holding them back, as far as I can tell, is the lack of PHP coders to maintain the back end. (Plus people willing to pay for the hardware and bandwidth...)

I'm not so sure encouraging more NameSpaces is a good idea. I think they are good for keeping "administrative" areas of wikis seperate from the actual content, but any direct organization of wikis should be kept to a bare minimum. My experience with the [[Hardware Compatability List]] suggests that organizational schemes are the product of one or a few minds. Wikis naturally grow more organically, and one of the great things about wikis is the ability to random walk using the links (or, sometimes, the random page feature). Categories and other hierarchial organizational schemes are just too much work.

But maybe I misunderstand what you're trying to say. (Or I'm just plain wrong :-)). [[User:Crazyeddie|Crazyeddie]] 16:27, Aug 6, 2004 (EDT)

----
Hi Eddie. Yeah, I use this site as an information dump of sorts. Every time I do something that I don't think I'll remember next time I need it, I'll post it here. I read that you are also a debian user :-) I think Debian was the second distro I ever installed, it was potato. I've used many distros since but I always crawl back to debian. I'm currently working on a debian project. You might want to chek it out [[Installing woody|here]]. Well, anyways, thanks for the welcome! - [[User:Koody|Koody]] 08:45, Aug 8, 2004 (EDT)

----
I've just restructured [[LQWiki:Forums]] a little. It's just to keep Talk pages for discussion, and I've moved the preexisting archive to a dedicated archive subpage. Thanks [[User:Dysprosia|Dysprosia]] 02:46, Sep 1, 2004 (EDT)

Groovy [[User:Crazyeddie|Crazyeddie]] 17:32, Sep 1, 2004 (EDT)
----
Dan, the [http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/BullDog Bulldog] article has been edited in accordance with our ''Manual of style'' (as usuall..) - helps with consistency - btw, good work on TLDP email - thanks --[[User:Skyline|Skyline]] 08:21, Sep 4, 2004 (EDT)

Thought I got it right that time... [[User:Crazyeddie|Crazyeddie]] 12:21, Sep 4, 2004 (EDT)

== On licenses and intellectual property ==

Hi Dan, thanks for your advice on [[User talk:Sdrubble]] on Oct. 1. Got it only right now, and will do my best to keep it in mind from now on.

To be honest I feel sad about this kind of stuff. I don't personally believe on intellectual property [that's a spiritual discussion which does not belong here]; moreover, I was born and raised in a country where copyright laws do exist but are not taken seriously by common folks. A large corporation usually enforces this kind of stuff internally, but average Joes do not think twice before going to the copy shop next door (one or two on every block, believe me) and cloning a whole book or paying US$3 for a CD with Win XP for their home computer.

So in this particular Wiki case (where I can see that this kind of concern is taken VERY seriously) the effect it will have on me is that I won't feel as compelled as I was before to research bits of info and make it available here. I will certainly NOT spend my time emailing webmasters and requesting permissions to spread info that they themselves obviously want to spread.

However I also accept that the law is the law and should [... not 'MUST' ...] be followed, no matter what silly consequences might arise from that. So I'll keep my rebel lines of thought to myself and not materialize those onto unlawful actions (not on LQ, at least).

As a side note I personally believe that an approaching social evolution [you might read 'spiritual' instead of social, and 'revolution' instead of evolution] will soon turn all copyright, patent, intellectual property and similar concepts into curiosities from the past. Time should tell.

Keep your advice coming. It will be welcomed by the brain even when rejected by the heart.

Cheers

Sdrubble

Dar/mondorescue

2004-09-30T17:57:28Z

Sdrubble:

<b>DAR</b> and <b>Mondorescue</b> are GPL'd Linux backup applications that appear to provide a complete backup solution comparable to the proprietary BackupEdge and to Storix Workstation Edition.

The way I will use these programs is to backup to multiple 650M or 4G files on hard drive, and burn these files to CDR, CDRW, DVD-RAM, DVD+R, or DVD+RW media. The Mondo backups will be burnt directly onto bootable media. To do a bare metal restore, I'll boot the Mondo backup, restore the root filesystem, boot the root filesystem, and restore the rest.

==Dar==

DAR provides a full set of features, e.g., file and filesystem full and incremental backups, include and exclude filters, splitting backups to allow storage on any media, random access to backups to restore individual files, compression, and more.

* [http://dar.linux.free.fr DAR homepage]

==Mondorescue==

Mondorescue is for disaster recovery. It provides bare-metal restores to recover from boot drive failures. It also has a differential backup feature.

Mondo's provides bare metal recovery from a disaster, and also allows cloning an entire system onto another drive. It provides interactive restore for cloning to a larger drive.

To start using Mondorescue, read [http://www.mondorescue.org/docs/docs.html Mondo docs], which lists the documentation and links to [http://www.mondorescue.org/download/1.6x-howto/index.html Mondo HOWTO].

This HOWTO describes how to get started, and how to do a bare metal restore, but does not tell much else about restoring your data. What I found by trial and error is in [[Mondorestore]].

* [http://www.linuxjournal.com/article.php?sid=6808 Mondo review]

2004-09-30T17:17:23Z

Sdrubble:

---------------------------------------------

Linux newbie, Windoze more-or-less advanced user

---------------------------------------------

Main focus:
- backup alternatives
- dual/boot or multi/boot with or without Windoze

---------------------------------------------

Most attractive distros:
- Fedora
- Ubuntu
- SystemRescueCD (intensively used)
- Vector

---------------------------------------------

User:Sdrubble

2004-09-30T17:15:06Z

Sdrubble:

User:Sdrubble

2004-09-30T17:13:59Z

Sdrubble:

Linux newbie, Windoze advanced user

Main focus:
- backup alternatives
- dual/boot or multi/boot with or without Windoze